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Problem 142

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:32 pm
by sker
What am I supposed to submit in this problem? x + y + z? Because I think I have the right answer, as confirmed by two other sources, but the problem won't accept it.

Could someone please verify if my answer is right or wrong?

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Re: Problem 142

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:40 pm
by daniel.is.fischer
Yes, you should submit the sum.
You can PM me your answer and I'll check if it's correct.
You might also try resubmitting it, in case copy-pasting the answer added a space or lost a digit.

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:25 pm
by MaJJ
What's wrong with (993250,949986,856350) = 2799586? My guess is that it's not the smallest solution, is it?

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:00 am
by genious999
Nope, it's not.

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:49 am
by JMW1994
In this problem, is a perfect square considered one that gives an integer when you square root x+y,x-y,y+z,y-z,x+z, and x-z?

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:59 am
by rayfil
JMW1994 wrote:In this problem, is a perfect square considered one that gives an integer when you square root x+y,x-y,y+z,y-z,x+z, and x-z?
Correct

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:48 am
by Loers
How can I find integer solutions for this equation
a^2 + b^2 + c^2 - d^2 = 2e
Image
is there some sort a tutorial or a specific part of math that handles this ?

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:06 pm
by thundre
Loers wrote:How can I find integer solutions for this equation
a2 + b2 + c2 - d2 = 2e
is there some sort a tutorial or a specific part of math that handles this ?
That is called a "Diophantine equation".

BTW I edited your text to use the "sup" tag for superscripts. It's probably easier than generating an image.

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:35 pm
by Slaunger
I have a solution to this problem with x + y + z = 1639329, which obey the conditions, but apparently not with the lowest possible sum. Obviously, I have missed some possibilities in my solution space :(

1. Can someone confirm that the sum 1639329 is in the spectrum of solutions, which comply with the conditions (just not the lowest sum) to check my understanding of the problem? :)

2. I can rapidly find plenty of other solutions with larger sums, the first four being
6557316
6645958
14610433
14753961
...
Could someone hint to me, what I kind of possibilities I appear to be missing in my spectrum of solutions? Perhaps pm me?

I have been stuck on this problem for almost two years now, and it is driving me nutz. :shock: But I am very stubborn, and will not begin on a new problem until I have found a solution to this one...

Thanks

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:33 pm
by TheEvil
The correct answer is lower than yours. It has the same number of digits as yours.
By the way: you can check any of your answers easily with a calculator, the hard part is to find the smallest one.

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:01 pm
by Slaunger
TheEvil wrote:The correct answer is lower than yours. It has the same number of digits as yours.
By the way: you can check any of your answers easily with a calculator, the hard part is to find the smallest one.
Köszönjük! :D I got encouraged by this, and recheked my assumptions. It turned out I had been too sloppy in assuming something about the ordering of the perfect squares, which was not entirely correct. Reran taking that into account and got the answer. Hurray. I am back in business on PE after almost two years! :D Muahahahaaa.

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:47 pm
by Oliver1978
Do you consider 1 a square? Actually, I don't, although 1 * 1 = 1.

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:34 pm
by dawghaus4
leghorn wrote:Do you consider 1 a square? Actually, I don't, although 1 * 1 = 1.
Yes, 1 is a square number

Definition: A square number is an integer that is the square of an integer; that is, a number is square if it is the product of some integer with itself.

Since 1 = 1 * 1 and 1 is an integer, it satisfies the definition.

Also, if you wish, you can look at problem 61 where the first 5 squares are listed: 1, 4, 9, 16. 25...

One can go further and say that 1 is a prefect nth power for all integers n ≥ 1.

The same can be said about 0. (Of course, in this problem, 0 is excluded because x > y > z > 0.)

Tom

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:51 pm
by Oliver1978
Alrighty! Thanks for lighening this up.

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:05 am
by RishadanPort
Can x/y/z be negative? Question doesn't say they need to be positive

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:57 am
by mdean
RishadanPort wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:05 am Can x/y/z be negative? Question doesn't say they need to be positive
The question mentions x > y > z > 0.

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:45 am
by RishadanPort
Ah oops missed that part. Thanks

Re: Problem 142

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:33 pm
by mdean
Hmm... My program appears to be calculating things correctly, but I seem to be missing a lot of solutions based on what's here. All the solutions I've found so far are with x, y, and z all even. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot it at this point except find a solution my program didn't find, then figure out why it didn't find it.

I could use some help from someone else on that. The only other recourse is to try to reverse engineer one of the values of x+y+z posted here and attempt to figure out x, y, and z.

Update: Nevermind. I'm an idiot. It took way too long to notice what was wrong.