Problem 091
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- Georg
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Re: Problem 091
Is it possible that there are less triangles with 3-coordinates than triangles with 2-coordinates?
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Re: Problem 091
I don't think so, and that's bothering me. I've made up a 3x3 square grid. And this is what I get:
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0-0 / 0-3 / 1-3
0-0 / 0-3 / 2-3
0-0 / 0-3 / 3-3
0-0 / 0-2 / 3-2
0-0 / 0-1 / 3-1
0-0 / 1-0 / 1-3
0-0 / 2-0 / 2-3
0-0 / 3-0 / 3-1
0-0 / 3-0 / 3-2
0-0 / 3-0 / 3-3
Well, it seems I'd miscounted :? Now I've got 10. Still less than 11 which are 2-coordinate right-angled triangles...
[i][update][/i]
I've arrived at 12:
0-0 / 1-2 / 3-0
0-0 / 2-2 / 3-149.157.5694.1125
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Re: Problem 091
Apart from the two you just added (I assume the first was meant to be 0,0/1,2/3,1) and their mirror images, you are also missing all those with the right angle at the 0,0 corner.leghorn wrote:[update]
I've arrived at 12:
0-0 / 1-2 / 3-0
0-0 / 2-2 / 3-1
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Re: Problem 091
That would make it 11, not 12, my mistake. So additionally there arejaap wrote:Apart from the two you just added (I assume the first was meant to be 0,0/1,2/3,1) and their mirror images, you are also missing all those with the right angle at the 0,0 corner.leghorn wrote:[update]
I've arrived at 12:
0-0 / 1-2 / 3-0
0-0 / 2-2 / 3-1
0,3 / 0,0 / 3,0
0,2 / 0,0 / 3,0
0,1 / 0,0 / 3,0
A total of 14 then after all. Awefully confusing...
49.157.5694.1125
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Re: Problem 091
This is encouraging
I've checked again and I don't have any clue which ones I'm missing...
49.157.5694.1125
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itteerde
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Re: Problem 091
Hi,
hope this is still in the acceptable range of questions...
I wrote an algorithm for Problem 91 and it solves the only example given and I believe the idea to be sound (especially as this seems to be a pretty easy one..). Nevertheless it does not work for limit=50. Can anyone (who wrote the correct solution with a flexible limit, too, so just would need to run his correct solution once more) give me the value for some high enough limit other than 50 to help me with looking for my oversight?
maybe limit=67 or something like that which does not easily lead to the real solution?
Basically I just would like to check if my result is to low (so an oversight in the possibilities and back to thinking) or if I create some multiples counting them.
hope this is still in the acceptable range of questions...
I wrote an algorithm for Problem 91 and it solves the only example given and I believe the idea to be sound (especially as this seems to be a pretty easy one..). Nevertheless it does not work for limit=50. Can anyone (who wrote the correct solution with a flexible limit, too, so just would need to run his correct solution once more) give me the value for some high enough limit other than 50 to help me with looking for my oversight?
maybe limit=67 or something like that which does not easily lead to the real solution?
Basically I just would like to check if my result is to low (so an oversight in the possibilities and back to thinking) or if I create some multiples counting them.
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DJohn
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Re: Problem 091
Your post seems to have been edited to remove your smaller numbers while I was replying, so I'll edit my reply to remove them too. The one you give for 4 is too low.
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itteerde
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Re: Problem 091
yeah, 61, right?DJohn wrote:Your post seems to have been edited to remove your smaller numbers while I was replying, so I'll edit my reply to remove them too. The one you give for 4 is too low.
but if so I still get limit=50 wrong, also someone shared limit=67 with me and I have that the same way too...
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itteerde
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Re: Problem 091
Whoa, that is interesting. Now I have it (just a little simplification that seems to have removed an oversight) and it produces the same vor limit=67 but the correct (and surely different) one for 50... How are the odds for that..!
